no need to state the basics, that was not what i was talking about what i was wondering about is extra ratios in a car MT specifically...say 18 wheelers have a lot of ratios and they need it. Now, for discussion sake, let's say you add a couple of gears to a high power car's MT, keeping the lowest and highest ratio the same...You will end up having a wider selection of ratios that allows you to choose one closer to the optimum for a given driver's intent/situation, right? But with MT the driver will be making the selection. When your ratious are spaced at sizeable gaps the desicion is usually pretty simple, but when you gap narrows to just a few mph will a human be able to make good use of it?Say in my bycile i have 21 ratios, but the gear selection desicion process is totally different from the car gearbox. I have plenty of time to make that desicion, perhaps even by trying different ratios and seeing what's best for me now.I can understand an automated system with high or even unlimited number of ratios where the computer can make all kinds of desicions, but with increasingly complex number of parameters would a human be really able to provide that good a desicion making process? An extreme example would be manual CTV with a smoothly moving lever For some reason we don't see those At best, a manual mode in CVT is a paddle shift based on fixed ratios.I am just wondering here, in no way i am bashing 6sp MT So, my original question really was...What does it feel to have that extra gear in MT and what advantage it brings to the experience that would justify the increased number of manual work required (and loss of time as a result) to make driving happen Hope I expressed myself well here