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Honda Accord General Discussion

No New Posts   better performing tires

April 7, 2008

tires can range from cheap to insanely expensive. you dont have to get the same tires that honda puts on there. in fact, i'd recommend against it because there are much better performing tires for less money.

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No New Posts   higher quality than the Camry or Altima

April 7, 2008

What do you want in a car?

I would say (obviously) that the best choice is the Accord. Why? For me, it is all in the details - the little details that add up to make a satisfyingly cohesive whole.

Firstly, I find the interior of the Accord of much higher quality than the Camry or Altima. The environment of tactile satisfaction is a huge plus for me - it took me owning a Scion and a Toyota to make me realize how important that was to me - and it pushed me back into the Honda dealership.

Secondly, the more I drive my Accord the more I enjoy and appreciate it. With other vehicles that I have purchased, I have found the opposite true as the reality of owning the vehicle fails to live up to the promise. Yesterday, I was coming home from a shopping excursion in heavy rainfall (what...rain? Oh yah, it's Seattle..) and found the Accord incredibly serene and secure on the wet pavement. I could tell exactly what the wheels were doing. It's just another surprise that has kept me happy.

Lastly, I find that Accords are classy - particlarly EX-L V6 models. I have found that many extremely wealthy people choose to drive this vehicle over spending lots more for (at best) a marginally better car.

Anyway, those are my two cents for why the Accord is the best choice. Whatever car you think will make you happiest...probably will. Good luck!

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No New Posts   very powerful car

April 7, 2008

ur on a honda forum, so i think the majority of the ppl here are gonna advice the accord (i'm one of them =b).
however, hondas are known for their reliability; more than that of toyota and nissan.
even though the 0-60 time might not be as great as that of toyota or nissan, it still doesn't change the fact that the accord is a very powerful car with plenty of torque.
i chose honda for its reliability, but i hope whatever decision u make it's one you dont regret.

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No New Posts   Accord vs. Camry vs. Altima, Help Me Decide!

April 7, 2008

Accord EX-L V6

PRO: Longest available factory extended warranty (8-yr/120k), good chance of Honda providing goodwill assistance once out-of-warranty, uses regular fuel, easy-to-service transmission, standard stability control, interior quality and design.

CON: Wind and road noise, expensive tire replacement (About $800/set for touring tires), timing belt replacement every 105k @ $600-$1000 (depending on the shop), higher 0-60 time compared to Altima and Camry, lack of manual mode for transmission, worst fuel economy @ 21 mpg (compared to Altima and Camry) according to Consumer Reports.

Camry SE V6

PRO: Styling (subjective, I'll admit), good 0-60 time, manual mode for transmission, reasonable tire replacement costs for long-life touring tires, timing chain, uses regular fuel and obtains 23 mpg overall

CON: Transmission still has some flare issues (very few with 2008 models, but still exists), difficulty of transmission service (filling and level check are difficult for DIY), possibility of premature transmission failure (before 150k), interior quality, steering wheel adjustment (Altima and Accord have a better driving position), difficult to find equipped with stability control, oil filter access (upside down mounted cartridge oil filter located underneath the vehicle), cost of water pump replacement (engine and transmission have to be removed)

Altima 3.5SE V6

PRO: engine/transmission performance, 0-60 time, CVT transmission w/manual mode, interior quality is better than the Camry, timing chain, water pump job does not require engine removal

CON: CVT durability is unknown and premature transmission failure (before 150k) is a possibility, requires premium fuel, expensive CVT fluid ($20/qt), unappealing interior design, unknown long-term durability, stability control is difficult to obtain without special order or purchasing higher-end trims

I'm quite certain that any of these cars will need a transmission rebuild/replacement around 150k. I've checked the price of a factory remanufactured unit and they all run about $4000 including parts and labor, so one isn't significantly more expensive than the other, surprisingly.

I'm still not sure which vehicle to choose. I want something that's low maintenance, powerful, and has decent reliability. Any advice?

Thanks.

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No New Posts   Cisco Press

April 5, 2008

Wow where to start... Ok From the top, I took the CCNA exam (combined intro and ICND) back in may of last year, got a 640 (Need a 849 to pass) realized I knew the major stuff, but the devil was in the details. Went to a CCNA bootcamp took again 3 days later (July) failed with a 803. Studied the books from Cisco Press more (Mistake number 1) retook in Aug failed with a 749 (Cisco Press book made me more stupid). At this point I am failing on semantics, so I was understandably upset. So I took off from Cisco stuff for 3 months and just concentrated on College. During winter break (Mid Dec) I studied the Cisco Press books some more (Mistake # 2) took the Intro in mid Jan (Failed with an 802 needed an 825 on this one). So I studied the Actualtests.com PDF file (Basically the actual questions with the answers and sometimes an explanation) went in on Feb 6 and passed with a 933. Then the ICND struggle began. My bosses said I needed to get motivated and since they were paying I did not care so I took the ICND after studying for 2 weeks with the actualtests.com PDF for ICND and failed with an 803 (Needed a 849). So then I studied for another week and retook today. I got a 902 (Again 849 to pass).The tests are a beast because the wording tricks you constantly, the sims don't allow the commands I am used to, and the wording sucks. Alot of the times there will be 5 right answers to a question and they want the best answer. Next sometimes there are 3 right answers and you have to guess which answers are correct. And did I mention the wording sucks?My advice to anyone... Take the tests split up, as one test it is too much to try to cram for as you have to regurgitate all the menusia(sp?) at one time. If I had to do it again I would not spend 60 bucks for the Cisco Press books, they are written to make you fail and take the tests again. The wording is completely different (although the meaning is still loosely linked) and written from a Cisco scientist, not a tier 3 tech. So save yourself the time and money and get the Actualtests.com PDF files for the intro and ICND tests.This is solely my exp and others may feel vastly different. To them I say good for you. But this is what worked for me. I have been doing router, and layer 1/2/3 stuff for 9 years. I felt this tests takes you down to a college level understanding and not a real world understanding. If you want my reasoning I will provide it but suffice it to say I did not feel I gained any knowledge, just a badge.

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No New Posts   MSI Diamond

April 5, 2008

I could not agree more. That's why I am hoping Nvidia works the issues out. The MSI Diamond was tested by Tomshardware and it seems a little above average in all ways plus it has a creative labs processor mounted onboard for sound (Good onboard audio, I don't need the best). I also seem to remember it having 3 16X PCIE ports and one 8X. I do not plan on more than 2 8800GTX's but as time goes by that would be a nice path to go. With the 680i, when my E6600 is to slow for games I can update to quad core, and when my 2 8800GTX's get obsolete I can throw another 1 or 2 in to keep it going. So in theroy instead of having a computer last 3 years max, this one may last 5 or 6. At least thats my selling angle with the misses.On another note I finially finished my CCNA today (took me a year to get it) so I should be getting a pretty substantial raise (the reason it took so long is I am also finishing up my AAS degree (done in mid march) and working towards my BS). With the raise from the CCNA and then the raise from my AAS I should be able to complete my rig in the next 2 months. Well short of the 6 I projected when I started my new project 3 months ago. I am cheap though, so I will wait for sales on everything (I look for deals through Fatwallet).I will post my rig when it is done.

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No New Posts   ATI cards to fold on

April 5, 2008

-----I currently am not helping anyone with my computer but I was doing the SETI thing for years. They went to BIONC and I am not to happy about it's stability. So for now I am just running idle at idle. However the new Nvidia card are supposed to be able to use the fold programs so you use your regular processor and then the beast in the graphics card (In my case a 8800GTX with 768 of ram) which I still have to find on sale (Good luck).

-----psyshack is your E6600 on an intel 975X platform? Have you seen any benchmarks that made you go with that over the 650I or other chipsets? The 680i motherboards are running in the mid 200's, which is pricey but I think worth it in the long haul due to its Quad Core capability.


I use to crunch Seti. Got tired of what amounts to deep space mapping. Moved over to the Fold. I know in folding you can use ATI cards to fold on. But nothing yet with Invidia.

I run my conroes on P965 boards. The 975's IMO arent over all as good. They seem to have maybe better native raid. But other than that,, not worth it IMO. Im not sold on the invidia chipsets yet. They have had alot of pesky problems with them. If the referance design is followed there have been alot of raid issues and other insane stuff. Also they make alot of heat. There northbridge gets HOT. Also with current Kentsfield quad cores they dont overclock very well. The i680 bios is a overclockers dream for the most part. Tweakage city!!!!! The none referance boards seem to work better if the bios is done right. Im looking into Gigbytes i680 board for maybe a run at a good gaming rig with a E6600. But seeing that Im not a big gamer. It would basicly be a fancey folding rig and benchmark rig. Thats alot of bucks for a digital toy... LMAO.

I was farting around with my e6600 a couple of weekends ago. Ran some super pi 32m pass's. At my rock stable folding OC I was at the 15 min. mark running one or two cores. And thats with loose mem timings of 5-5-5-15. My cheap ram wont tighten up unless I drop the OC. And that wont happen. Ubber fast mem timings seem to have less to do with over all system speed than they use to. Take my AMD XPM-2500 on a Abit NFS. Its like night and day between cache 3 and cache 2 timings. Also T1 is quicker than T2 id your ram can hang. I fell in love with Patriot DDR-400 stuff. Way OC'ed at 2-2-2-5, T1 its snappy. That old AMD is still folding 24/7 @ 2.4 ghz 24/7.

If all else fails. Have fun with your puters. My moto is if it wont OC,,, Its a trash can baby. naughty.gif

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No New Posts   DDR Ram

April 5, 2008

SuperPi is a program that runs Pi out to so many decimals. 2M means it runs it out 2 million times past the decimal point. It does this if I remember correctly 21 times and the time it takes total is your SuperPi 2M time. It can go out to 32 Million but that takes to long and 2M is more than enough to gauge performance. (If i am wrong please correct me but with my exp this is what I have learned). If you want I can post a link, I can load it on my websever. (It's a XP1700 AMD with 512bm Ram run off of Comcast's 6/384k service, so if I post it I will only keep it their for a few days as it taxes my broadband upload and my wife gets mad when her internet slows down.) Next FS X is an upgrade from FS2004 they use sat imagery for most landscapes. Is everything as impressive as the major cities? I don't know. I have been flying FS since 4.0 (I think) which came on floppies back in 1995. Looking back at 2004 (Which I had no upgrades on) it is much better, water is much more realistic. Planes are about the same, clouds seem better thought out. Umm..... Can't think of anything else, but if I played it more recently I could tell you (Been about 3 weeks).Intels new Core 2 Duo is amazing, it overclocks great because it runs cooler and with less power (Kind of hand in hand) than intels older products (Think almost half the heat of the P4 later chips).I do tax my processor with extreme gaming so I want something that has great overclockability and is fast to start with. This makes the E6600 a good bet. Also the new 680I motherboard support Quad Core so when they come down in price and my Core 2 can't keep up it's just an easy swap (Or so I hope). I don't know about Vista yet, I have been told by someone that when you load Ultimate it takes up a gig of ram. That seems a bit much, and I only have 2 gigs to work with. I guess I could get 1-2 more but just for an OS that works about the same? I don't know if I am willing to shell out an extra 400 for the OS and 100 for an additional gig of ram for it.About James question, you should be able to run Vista fine as you have the graphics card for it, you have a gig of DDR Ram and a fairly good processor. My main concern for you would be hard drive space, Vista home Premium (What I would suggest for you) runs about 5 gigs I was told. I currently am not helping anyone with my computer but I was doing the SETI thing for years. They went to BIONC and I am not to happy about it's stability. So for now I am just running idle at idle. However the new Nvidia card are supposed to be able to use the fold programs so you use your regular processor and then the beast in the graphics card (In my case a 8800GTX with 768 of ram) which I still have to find on sale (Good luck).psyshack is your E6600 on an intel 975X platform? Have you seen any benchmarks that made you go with that over the 650I or other chipsets? The 680i motherboards are running in the mid 200's, which is pricey but I think worth it in the long haul due to its Quad Core capability.

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No New Posts   Conroe Builds

April 5, 2008

I just built two of these rigs.

First is a E6600 on a Gigabyte DQ6, 1 gig of cheap-o Kingston DDR-800. Its overclocked on air cooling to a very comfy 3.46 ghz. Big Typhoon is cooling it with a Antec 120mm fan. At 100% cpu load Folding @ Home 24/7 running Winblows XP with the Folding happening in VMware/linux shell 52c.

Second is a E6400 on a Asus stripper A5B I think it is. With Patriot cheap-o 1 gig kit of DDR-667. Its on a wonderfully stable 3.40 ghz overclock. I have it running on a native Linux install. With a dual boot to winsucks. It is also Folding 24/7 in Linux with max temps of 48c. Its a better Oc'ing cpu. Less voltage needed to kick its teeth out. Its being cooled with a Cooler Master Hyper 48 with a High speed 92mm fan.

Both machines are runnning 7600GT video cards. Im not a big gamer. And pretty much real standard stuff as far as harddrives and optical drives.

These cpu's and the platform in general is kick arse. AMD has nothing in current production that will touch them. And its looking like there is nothing coming that has the gonads these Conroe's have. Intel will have a new dual core and a real quad core out by the end of the year that should be another HUGE step forward.

If your thinking about upgrading or buying a new machine. Go dual core. Its amazing! If you know your way around windblows or the nix you can do some impressive stuff with them. Given the programs you use, can use two cores. Straping the cores together is amazing in some Linux stuff... Like Folding @ Home in SMP. smile.gif

For gaming,,, benchmarks,,, even day out and day in stuff. I can run the e6600 up to a stable 3.70 ghz and the e6400 to 3.55 ghz. My current overclocks are for the 24/7 100% cpu loads the run at.

This is the single best over all platform upgrade Ive ever seen in the computer world bar none.....

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No New Posts   *touches wood*

April 5, 2008

I too have FS, but the 2004 version. Prob is.. I find the graphics are awfull!! I bought the "upgraded scenery for the UK) and downloaded the upgrades available on the net.. but they are not much better.. I have lots of mountains, cities, rivers etc shown where in reality there are none! And none showing where there should be lots!! The only reasonably accurate mapping is the UK coastline!! grumpy.gif

Is FS X any better?

Hmmm I am no techie, but will try to describe my PC's bits.. CPU is Athlon 3.2+ set to run at 2.2 coz it overheated on max, even after I fitted two more extractor fans and the biggest power pack (box) avaliable!. 1 GIG of double whatsit RAM. Mother board is ABIT NF 7 series. I later added an ATI graphics card with 264mb up front RAM (whatever that means!).. and an AVerMedia, DVB-TV WDM card for watching-recording TV stuff..

C:/ is 20 GIG, D:/ is 40 GIG and an external (G) drive of 140 GIG connected via a USB2 port. I think that covers it.. The external drive is a bit slow at times when editing video, because I didn't know I should have bought one with lots of up-front RAM :dohhh: I will prob have to replace it in the near future.. frown.gif Ooops I almost forgot, I also have two DVD read-write rom drives, and the usual "A" floppy drive installed.

I actually built my PC myself about two years ago, a friend gave me a shopping list of stuff to buy for it. And I borrowed a book from the library on how to build it.. smile.gif I am running WinXP Pro. SP2. ... So far it has run extremely well, and nothing ever seems to slow it down smile.gif *touches wood* lol..

I use AOL with the BT Voyager 100 external modem via a USB2 port to connect to the internet.. Not sure what the download speeds are but I can download 10 MB ish in about 4 mins. ?

Apart from FS 2004 I dont have any games on it, but loads of Video - photo edit stuff, and a good Mapping - route finding programme..

The big questions are... Will my PC run FS X with all the available (for UK only) upgraded scenery installed? : And is the scenery -mapping anything like correct? :dunno

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No New Posts   LCD Acer monitor

April 5, 2008

My home computer is a HT 3.06 P4 with a gig of ram, bought it back in Spring 03 and it has been beaten since but still chugs along. It runs SuperPi 2M just under 3 minutes. My laptop with a Core Duo T2500 and a gig of ram runs it at 1:01.

For the future I just bought a beautiful Antec p180 case and 2 gigs of OCZ 1066 DDR2 for $280 total. I am now looking at a MSI Diamond line 680I motherboard (Very rare but give it a month) and a E6600. I think that might get down near 30 seconds without overclocking. Not sure though as I have not bought everything yet let alone built it. I think I am going to start with one 8800GTX, and later go to two, as well as 3 SATA drive with 500gigs each (2 drives run in Raid 0). I think for power an Antec with 600+ watts. If anyone has under taken a 680i motherboard project I would be interested in hearing results. I mainly play BF2, but think I might get into BF2142. I have been known to fly MSFS X from time to time as well. I would be interested in cranking up all the settings and watch the 8800GTX do wonderful things on FS X. I have a 24 inch LCD Acer monitor right now and even in low settings it's stunning. Also right now all games are played off of my laptop (To my 24 inch screen) because it has a 256meg Nvidia 7900GS, and the aforementioned T2500 and gig of ram. The reason for the new build is the laptop still can't run BF2 at highest settings and I want to see people breath their last breath...

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No New Posts   New PC with Core 2 Duo

April 5, 2008

Well, I just ordered a new PC from TigerDirect. My current PC, which has a Pentium 4 2.8GHz and is over 4 yrs old, was getting a little slow...processor was working all the time. I thought I would try the new Core 2 Duo processor so I went with the E6600 2.4GHz 4m processor on the Intel D975XBX2 motherboard. I hear these things are blazing fast and I can't wait till it arrives. I am sticking with XP pro though as I do not like the idea of switching to a brand new OS. And I just want to throw in that I purchase from TigerDirect's corporate website for my business computer needs and for my personal computer needs because the Systemax brand PC's are made in the USA and when you call for tech support, you are calling O-HI-O...yes, can you believe it....you actually get to talk to a person who speaks ENGLISH that you can understand. thumbsup.gif

Can't wait, can't wait!!! banana.gif

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No New Posts   European cars higher compression

April 5, 2008

Need to look deeper. European cars higher compression, higher octane gas - so power difference is arguable.Standard F22 as in US Accords C.R. 9:1 - 2.2litreMine F20 11:1 2.0litreI run either 95 or 97 octane. I was told that US gas is 87 octane - is that right ?In general, we do go for smaller engines although a normal family car like the Accord would be 2 litre. GTI's/GTE's which I have much experience of [bone crushers !], are normally 2 litre but highly tuned [engine and chassis]. Not much point in high power if you cant get it down on the road. So in this as in certain other areas, it not the size that matters, its what you do with it.Price of fuel [prepare to weep !] currently £1.04 per litre [about $9 UK gallon but I think US gallon is 20% less than UK. US gallon defined as 3.8 litre, UK as 4.5 litre according to Google. So equivalent would be about $7 -- Edited by Dana at 11:11, 2008-04-05-- Edited by Dana at 11:12, 2008-04-05

-- Edited by Dana at 11:14, 2008-04-05

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No New Posts   good gas mileage

April 5, 2008

Consumers in different countries have different tastes. Ever notice the US Accord is bigger than the Euro Accord (aka. TSX in the US)? We like our big powerful cars, while the Europeans like smaller, nimbler cars that get good gas mileage (price of gas is more expensive).

-- Edited by Cecily at 11:08, 2008-04-05

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No New Posts   "N. American cars so different"

April 5, 2008

Is the question the wrong way round ? ....... "N. American cars so different."Are the US produced cars purely for the domestic market whereas about 75% Swindon output is for export - wouldn't be surprised if some sent to Japan.I live quite close to a big Nissan plant who export like crazy including a lot back to Japan. Reason - the Sunderland plant builds a better product than the Japanese [if only Nissan didn't use French designers since the tie-up with Renault, they could be world leaders but, to be quite frank, the cars are superbly engineered and ultra reliable and awful to look at.

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No New Posts   GTI/GTE habit

April 5, 2008

Several cars back in another attempt to break the GTI/GTE habit, i had one of those 3-door slinky Civic Hatchbacks which I drove until it went mouldy [about 170k] - no problems apart from old age decrepitude which you and I know all about. The guy that I buy all my cars from and who does all my work bought this one for his wife to take the kids to school. When I complained about GTE backache on the phone, he said "I've got a decent Honda if you fancy a straight swop " - so to answer your question [finally], I bought it sight-unseen on the basis of my own experience of Honda reliability and my guy's word of honour.I do go on, dont I but then you already knew that !

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No New Posts   GTI's/GTE's - had enough of bone-shaking rides

April 5, 2008

The year of manufacture is end95/early96 and the location is the beach in Sunderland, North-East England. That is the North Sea in the background. Only had it a few months and it is filthy already. I thought Honda's washed themselves. Trying to break my addiction to GTI's/GTE's - had enough of bone-shaking rides. Check out www.honda.co.uk for some more models with differences. I think the current Civic is different to US Civic also.

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No New Posts   Purpose?

April 5, 2008

Our decision to add an Accord (rather than a second Civic) when our Civic was getting up in miles (150K) was the plan to use the Accord as our interstate cruiser. We tend to take 2-3 trips per year where we drive 3,000 or so miles per trip. The Civic is okay for distance (35+ mpg at 70mph with the air conditioner on), but we wanted something more comfortable for the long distance runs. The lumbar support and wider stance of the Accord will give that.

On the other side, the Civic is an inexpensive to operate, fun car to drive around the city. Tight turning circle, 30+ mpg in the city, small enough to get in tight spots make it a great little car for day-to-day running.

So get the Civic now and if you ever want a second car, match the Accord along side. smile.gif

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No New Posts   Targeted at middle-aged drivers

April 5, 2008

Also take into account the insurance costs associated with the car. From what I can tell, a 4cyl Accord is a bit cheaper than a 4cyl Civic to insure. That can vary from company to company, it just depends on how they figure their rates.

An example of that is my Accord. It was cheaper monthly for me to insure the V6 with the 6spd manual than the 4cyl with the 5spd manual. The company I use goes primarily by incidents per vehicle--and since there are very few V6 6spd sedans on the road, there are few incidents. There are tons of 4cyl 5spd sedans out there and quite a bit of incidents. The Civic is primarily a car targeted at younger drivers, so I'm sure it has a high incident rate. The Accord is targeted at middle-aged drivers and should have a lower incident rate in general.

As far as car price, if you like the 7th gen models (2007) you may be able to find a really good deal on a left over. What was a $21K or $22K sticker price would now be $16 or $17. The Accord also has a better residual value (what they use to determine leases) over 3 years than a Civic, so that might be an important thing to keep in mind.

Personally I can't stand the look of the newer Civics, particularly the interior. The dash is ugly IMO and way too "deep" on top. The location of the shifter (auto or manual) is annoying also. I also didn't feel comfortable in the car (I'm 5'11").

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No New Posts   Civic loaded up with 5 passengers

April 5, 2008

I've had my Civic loaded up with 5 passengers and have had no problem. The rear floor is flat unlike the Accord's hump. If you want a large sedan get the Accord. The Civic Sedan is funner to drive when compared to the Accord Sedan, i personally loved the Civic's dash design and the location of the shifter was perfect. (same location as the 08 Accord). Both are great vehicles and stylish. If you had a buget of 21K$ I'd say go for the Civic EX-L instead of the Accord LX. (You get more things for the money) especially since you can get an EX-L at 19K$. Civic will boast great gas mileage (one of the reasons I got it). But that being said if you have a family larger than 4 people get the Accord Sedan. Can't beat the v6 Accord.thumbsup.gif

P.S. Go for 08 Models, 7th Gen accord will loose its value much quicker now that the 8th Gen is out, and ACE makes it safer.

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No New Posts   4cyl 5spd sedans

April 5, 2008

Also take into account the insurance costs associated with the car. From what I can tell, a 4cyl Accord is a bit cheaper than a 4cyl Civic to insure. That can vary from company to company, it just depends on how they figure their rates.

An example of that is my Accord. It was cheaper monthly for me to insure the V6 with the 6spd manual than the 4cyl with the 5spd manual. The company I use goes primarily by incidents per vehicle--and since there are very few V6 6spd sedans on the road, there are few incidents. There are tons of 4cyl 5spd sedans out there and quite a bit of incidents. The Civic is primarily a car targeted at younger drivers, so I'm sure it has a high incident rate. The Accord is targeted at middle-aged drivers and should have a lower incident rate in general.

As far as car price, if you like the 7th gen models (2007) you may be able to find a really good deal on a left over. What was a $21K or $22K sticker price would now be $16 or $17. The Accord also has a better residual value (what they use to determine leases) over 3 years than a Civic, so that might be an important thing to keep in mind.

Personally I can't stand the look of the newer Civics, particularly the interior. The dash is ugly IMO and way too "deep" on top. The location of the shifter (auto or manual) is annoying also. I also didn't feel comfortable in the car (I'm 5'11").

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No New Posts   Basic commuter car

April 5, 2008

My first post.

I was in the same boat you were in so to speak. Civic or Accord. In both cases, we were considering the sedan.

We just started a family recently and a new car was in order to accomodate our new lifestyle: the baby, stroller, diaper bag, etc. Initially, we had an 08 civic in our sights but after sitting in the driver's seat with both the infant car seat and my wife populating the back seat, we were a bit disappointed by the lack of cabin space. Right away, this sold me on the new Accord. Of course the Accord is pricier, but you get a much better car with more features and more importanly for us, the extra space.

Your choice will most likely be determined by your needs and lifestyle. If you need the extra room of a large sedan, and have to haul people and things around alot, get the Accord. If you are using it for a basic commuter car and groccery getter that you mainly drive yourself with no passengers, get the Civic or the Accord coupe.

Go for a test drive. Maybe that will move you in the right direction.

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No New Posts   06 LX 5-speed back

April 5, 2008

I purchased a 06 LX 5-speed back in Oct of 05. I thought I woukd drive it and turn it over to my son in 3 years. I had issues driving the 5-speed in city traffic. My foot never left the clutch. Anyway, I went back to my dealer after 7 months and was looking to trade out to a auto Civic. At that time the 06 Accord was out. Because of the Accord discounting I was able to get a 06 LX auto for $1,600 more than auto Civic. After driving both cars the Accord (IMHO) felt like a totally different car. More power/comfort/quieter. I like the Civic but for the money the Accord was a better buy. I still plan on turning this car over to my son in 3 years and get another replacement Accord for me.

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No New Posts   Civic EXL 5MT w/Navi

April 5, 2008

There is no more Accord VP. Only LX.

I'd get a Civic if I were you. I've been pricing them out online and I've got offers of 20,100 out the door on a Civic EXL 5MT w/Navi and a bunch of accessories. They're a ton of fun to drive and much more toss-able than the Accord. The newest ones remind me a lot of the older Accords. - That's how nice they are.

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No New Posts   Accord LX starts

April 5, 2008

What are the primary uses for the car? Do you have a family or often carry passengers? What are your preferences as far as handling or ride. 4 door or 2 door?

The Civic handles a bit better than the Accord. It has the same safety features as the Accord (air bags, VSA, ACE body structure, TPMS). Fuel mileage will be better. If you need a daily commuter, don't carry passengers often, and are looking to get into something around $15K or $16K, Civic would probably be your best bet. A top of the line Civic (moonroof and other features) will put you in the same ball park as an entry level Accord. The EX-L Civic with leather and NAVI will be about MSRP $21,600.

If you need the room, extra power, and ride is a priority, the Accord would probably be the better choice. The Accord LX starts around $21,000 and comes with all the "basics" (power windows, locks, A/C, etc...) and the safety features mentioned for the Civic.

Depending on your needs, if price is the main factor, I'd say go for the Civic. The VP starts under $15,000. Had I not fell in love with the Accord coupe, there's a better chance than not that I would be in a Civic Si coupe right now.

You can't go wrong with either. Which will suit you best?

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No New Posts   Design of the e-brake

April 5, 2008

i was intending to buy the civic coupe lx over the honda accord vp. but for the same price i got more features w/ the accord. what i liked with the civic was the seats were comfy, digital tachometer, and the built in aux input. I did not like the design of the e-brake and the automatic shifter thing. that was pretty much it. the back was kinda small, but ok for my size. im 5'8". honda accord got me with the instant power, really good gas mileage, roomyness, 4 doors, better depreciation rate, trunk space, and the key fob. the civic did not have a button to release the trunk. on the accord there is one, but no location to insert the key to open the trunk(sorry if it is not clear). Civic had the dealer markup last year, which made it about the same price. I was in a rush to get the car due to commuting to college, so i was under a budget, and wanted to pinch my penny and the accord was for me. gluck with your choice!

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No New Posts   Accord vs Civic

April 5, 2008

Was hoping to not have to buy a car for another twelve months or so but it looks like my Saturn is on it's last legs so I'm looking for a new car. Looking around the Accord caught my eye pretty quick. Guess the Accord forums might not be the place to get the most un-biased opinions but was trying to determine on the Accord vs the Civic.

Really the only thing that makes me question is the extra gas milage/price. I like the extra space, looks, interior of the Accord better, just making sure I'm not overlooking anything that should make me rethink getting a Civic instead. Didn't see any threads about this so I figured a pro/con thread couldn't hurt. ;)

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No New Posts   large splatter mark

April 5, 2008

Wow, that doesn't look to good but at least it didn't dent the car or leave any other lasting impressions. I've been in the car a couple of times when all of a sudden, I hear a thump only to find a large splatter mark on my car when there are no objects or people around me for at least 100 feet.

Bird poop can be any colour. I've seen all colours and consistancies. That reminds me, on our honeymoon, my wife and I were posing for a picture while a hungry seagull swallowed our 8 inch pizza in one gulp. I wonder what colour that poop turned out to be?

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No New Posts   one huge bird

April 5, 2008

Ok, you all were right.. it was bird poop. I noticed there was some on the rear windshield and it is most definitely bird poop.
That must have been one huge bird! Never in my life have I seen so much! And it hit with so much force, too! And it was on a route I took almost everyday.. why couldn't it have happened while in my old car, not my brand new car? I guess that's what made me paranoid.

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No New Posts   Bird poop

April 5, 2008

Bird poop can be any color. Even black like the time my car got attacked by a bunch of birds. I was driving home from work that day. I stopped at a light. All of a sudden I hear "thud, thud, thud, thud, thud....." It was like someone threw a bunch of marbles into the air and they all came down on my car. It was LOUD.

I didn't know what it was at first. I started looking around and then I looked up and see a bunch of birds sitting above my car on the electrical lines. I thought, "Oh, great." I didn't know how bad I was attacked until I got home. My whole roof was covered in black poop.

Of course, I washed the entire car right then and there.

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