...well, maybe it all balances out........for some time, the Honda/Acura 6M clutch has been maligned by some......Now lookee here:One of the biggest improvements to the 6MT drivetrain is the clutch take-up. I can't tell you how many times we stalled the '04 TL 6MT during our 2004 winter road test where three TOV editors rotated between 3 different 6MT Honda products over several thousand miles of driving. Every time we swapped vehicles, the TL was inevitably stalled almost immediately. The problem was the TL's nanometer clutch take-up. To address this problem, Acura engineers revised the geometry within the clutch mechanism and have changed the characteristics of the friction disk so the clutch take-up now takes place over a longer duration of the pedal's stroke. It now feels more natural and consistent with other Honda and Acura products. Indeed, during this first encounter I managed to drive the TL Type-S 6MT without once stalling it. ...light at the end of the tunnel............holidays best, ez..