I am not giving this list to give anyone something to whine about.... I'm giving it to show that the Honda Corp. takes our complaints seriously! When some have had problems & the dealer properly reports it..... they take it to the next level to see if there's a pattern. If there is, they do an update or recall. I'm trying to show how this works. So now we can see if any of these things do turn into the next level. Help me watch for them..... if you hear about a bulletin before I do, let me know. We can see how long it takes to reach that level...together. 'K?